https://undark.org/2023/10/06/book-review-eve/
My reply:
[[Forster is quite wrong, knowingly I suspect, because it is physically impossible for GHGs to warm the deep ocean. This is because infrared radiation can only penetrate the top few millimeters of the sea.]]
Hit the nail on the head. It’s the Sun’s downward visual wavelength radiation that heats the sea, not downward IR. The sea continually cools via black body IR upward radiation, conduction/convection, and evaporation.
The big haha is that no IR from greenhouse gases can heat the Earth’s surface, land or sea, because it’s not an independent source of energy, just delayed and regurgitated surface cooling IR that is at the tail end of the IR cooling curve, meaning that all the real surface heat radiated at light speed to outer space, permanently cooling the surface until more sunlight is received.
Any dinky downward IR will be completely absorbed by the surface because it’s a black body that absorbs all wavelengths, but it just merges into the internal energy distribution and gets emitted along the surface’s black body radiation curve whose peak power wavelength and intensity are dependent only on its instantaneous absolute temperature. It’s no different than a water hose feeding off a water tank and putting out a fire on a building in the distance. Any small backspray can’t make the tank level go higher. The U.N. IPCC octopus is double-counting energy to push its big hoax.
Greenhouse gas back radiation subtracts from downward solar radiation, not adds to it. In other words, long wavelength low energy intensity 15 micron CO2 back radiation was already emitted by the surface as part of its cooling process, and can’t reheat the surface one iota because it just gets recycled and emitted at shorter wavelengths as a dinky contribution to the ongoing total IR cooling emission power.
If the instantaneous IR cooling radiation drained 1 Joule of energy in the first instant, and the CO2 downward IR radiation returned .01 or even .1 Joule in the second instant, the heat capacity of so many degrees C or K per Joule would lower the surface temperature in the first instant, and in the second instant the downward IR would be swamped out with the lower wavelength emissions during the second instant and couldn’t restore the lost temperature one iota, that is, lower the peak power wavelength and increase its intensity to make the temperature higher than before the first instant. Surface temperature just keeps dropping smoothly with the CO2 radiation having no effect on the instantaneous temperature.
Another big haha. If the surface had a notch in its blackbody radiation emission curve at the greenhouse gas absorption/emission wavelength, which would be equivalent to 100% of the energy returned, it wouldn’t have any effect on surface temperature. Only total solar energy absorbed would determine that.
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